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Glenroy Pascoe Vale Uniting Church

Address 76 Wheatsheaf Rd, Pascoe Vale VIC, Australia
Phone +61 403 276 973
Website www.glenroypascoevaleunitingchurches.com.au/copy-of-worship-contacts
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Lienstein
03 March 2023 4:34

Found cross reference helpful and stayed at Moreland program. I am grateful with the time spent with its current leader Peter Tobgui on understanding the words, but also feel hurtful when managing power was abused, or say God’s word not practiced correctly.

Understanding of the words intentionally shown favoritism and his heart is quite closed to allow different life observations. He disagreed God is always guided us, and therefore all other churches although preaching in Jesus' name, won’t be saved. One time I saw a sermon accessible in member area to realize he is even judging the United Church where he rented the venue by his understanding of Words.

Peter preached salvation is not by works but mindset, which is correct, but did not practice it in his church. He asked constantly that ‘if I repent all my sins’?

He has different standard on what sins are, until I show him the Trolley problem by Philippa Foot, showing that the world is in dilemma on many sinful moral issues that we can’t solve by ourselves, and no one can be perfect, that’s why we need God. He started to agree with my view that Sin is about reduction and that God did want us to love him without force as it will never be genuine love by force.
I could have just started another sin, by claiming doing no sin today!

Peter questioned me that Jesus did not even command, such as ‘Do you believe Bible is God’s word? ’
I am an honest person, therefore I said, I do not disagree since I haven’t read all of them, and therefore I joined your Homegroup in order to grow and learn. Peter then said, "you are not a Christian then, and you are not supposed to be in Homegroup. "

Look, if someday my families are here and needed to get emotionally questioned constantly, I don’t feel stable in this church. It’s certainly very different version of discipleship Jesus want us to do. One of my family members could just disappear when Peter gets emotional losing self-control? He forgot why Jesus gave all authorities to himself and that all of us can pray and hear from God, not through Peter. Peter is a good person, but not perfect. Growth in Words is everyone’s responsibility. If we carry so much guilt into the growing process, we can hardly learn.

I did mention about few experiences in this church why some members can just sin towards me so easy, while my actions are always being honest. I see why it’s a big question now and if I can experience genuine connections with people in this church.

God showed us without forgiveness, we can't love others, who are created from his image. Many verses in Bible did teach that Jesus fulfilled the laws, set free from sin, grace over laws, and 2 Cor 5: 21, Rom 3: 24; Rom 5: 1-21; Rom 5: 13,16 & Rom 6,6: 11; Rom 7, Gal 3: 13, Heb 10: 1-2.

However, the church is focusing on original sin: disobedience. That’s the culture of the church that carry heavy weights, and Trolley problem proves that it’s incorrect teaching. Correct teaching would be the motivation of disobedience, and wisdom and life Jesus has done for us, and probably not to ban female preachers, or female teachers only those generations do for some reasons. When God gave Adam and Eve’s rules are very different from today. Laws are changing through time but it was God’s plan by paving the road on animal sacrifice, and prophecy that he came to rescue (love) us.

Another observation is why Jesus had to abolish all human authorities in the end days if living on his words is simply focusing or measuring on laws?
The church believe that Satan is powerful and can make miracles. I do not believe it’s correct teaching since my journey linked to Christianity was through miracles God planted.
Some members sinned by either showing favoritism, deceptions, and manipulations of Biblical words. I started to know there’s a problem and not many fruit of Spirit observed.

Jesus has no command that we have to believe the whole Bible first, but Jesus himself.
I trust God will make the correct judgement of his version of discipleship.

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